More Elevation Trail Show Reviews

Rob Krar – Western States 100 Champion and former Elevation Trail Guest (Here’s the show) writes:

I can’t tell you exactly why I enjoy your show so much—maybe it’s my mild interest in cricket—but keep it up and don’t stop what your doing!

Steve Pero writes:

Tim, I guess I am lame in not commenting on podcasts, even knowing that you can direct the show in the right direction if you know what your 6 listeners want to hear! I don’t comment on Itunes because it seems they want your CC# in order to create an account, which I refuse to do.

I’ve been listening since #1 and have enjoyed most of them…even back in the days with Matt. Man those podcasts were weird. I have to admit that even Gary gets on my nerves sometimes with his rants, but not enough to stop listening 😉 I will admit that if one is on MTB or some other “strange” sport, I don’t listen to it.
My favorite one was the chick show with Andrea and Larisa…

Best of luck with the show! Keep it coming!

Patrick Coleman writes:

Great show, and I just ordered a hat.  Here’s a quick review to get all this cricket out of my mind…

Elevation Trail is the only endurance sports podcast that makes me laugh on a regular basis.  Tim and Gary give honest opinions and commentary that are spot on.  The subject matter can be all over the place.  I keep telling myself to quit listening to it when it gets into the esoteric minutia of check writing etiquette in the grocery store—sometimes I feel like i’m listening in on a personal phone call between old friends—but it’s just too entertaining to not keep listening.  I don’t even remember how I found this podcast!

Honestly, I have no clue how cricket is played.  For some reason, I have this mental image of 4 or 5 random vertical sticks of different diameter in the ground that serve no real purpose, and behind these stands a batter who holds a 2×4 that he/she uses to try to wail a dodge ball back at the pitcher, thereby knocking the pitcher unconscious, doing away with the only relevant player of the opposing team, and winning the match.  There’s more players behind the pitcher I’m sure, but that’s all kind of murky in my mind, so they’re not relevant.  I think they’re the pitcher’s crew.  But I do believe cricket is very popular with a certain religious group that happens to be in a popularity contest with Elevation Trail on the Facebook.  If the show goes down this road too far, you just might boost up their popularity and eventually DFL on this battle of Facebook likes.

And every so often a show catches me off guard and covers something really meaningful.  The interview with Tony Reed from the National Black Marathoners Association is one of the most memorable podcasts I’ve listened to—anywhere—and the social issues it brings up are something that recur to me quite often now.

Keep doing it.  Or that certain cult religious group on the Facebook just might take up cyclocross too.

Elevation Trail Listener Reviews

Some show reviews and comments have rolled in, likely from the fear of more cricket and supercross talk, so we’ll share some of them (yes, even negative stuff). As I pointed out to David T, who’s been around with us since the very beginning, “The show is constantly evolving and who knows where it’ll go but I personally enjoy being open to discussing different sports and looking at the commonalities and differences between them. In the end, we do this for pure entertainment value and have to rely on a base of what we think is entertaining and go from there. Feedback like yours does help to give perspective for us and I’m sure will help nudge the direction of the show.”

We truly value our listeners and your feedback, so keep it coming!

Here are few:

Allen Kinsler writes:

I’m burned out on Bill Simmons and his B.S. Report. Too big, too refined and quite frankly I just don’t give a shit about U2s place in history and how Bono, Springsteen, and Chris Martin are all interchangeable or not interchangeable. Many pro athletes are terrible to listen to. I did enjoy his Loren Michaels interview though.
Serial was a good ride but too short lived.
I began listening to Elevation Trail to feed my hunger for all things ultra running. Since I have sucked at it for a solid year I have tried to amass knowledge to improve. While its base is ultra sports it delves into a broad range of topics such as cyclocross (whaaat?), cricket, issues in the grocery store, mountain biking, locker room etiquette, race directing, ethics/cheating, beef over grilled cheese (think 2pac vs biggie) scrotal length and trying to generate more likes than the first satanic church (they have).
Tim is self deprecating and seems anti-establishment. Gary sounds like the college professor that he is (sociology). Both are smart guys and do a good job of taking an issue and examining it through multiple points of view. They have no issue playing the devil’s advocate. I have laughed out loud more than a few times. Their debate style and presentation have caused me to weigh in while running and in my car into the void of air that surrounds me.
It has a loose feel that involves friends bantering back and forth in a stream of consciousness format. They throw in guests from different disciplines that include elite athletes (they are sooooo fast) but also normal/average people who compete.
Even the very known people that they interview aren’t really known outside of their niche sport. Most of them are fascinating characters that are doing something that they really like but also usually working a “real job.” I would be surprised if anybody has a Q score.
Celebrity is a curious phenomenon. It has really changed since reality TV started making people with no discernable talent famous. However, celebrity(especially sports celebrity) has really changed as I have become older. It is hard to relate to people that excel in big pro sports. The money and even the sport they play just gets more and more distant from who/where I am in life.
Don’t get me wrong, I cannot relate to being able to ride a bike without crashing, or running 100 miles super fast. However it is different in the endurance world when they have a life that isn’t that of a national celebrity. Plus they are usually far more eloquent as they were not groomed to be a pro athlete from their youth i.e. they likely wrote their own papers and took their own tests in college.
The last 2 years I have migrated into following more fringe sports where people don’t make obscene money and are doing it because they love the sport/activity. I still enjoy hearing from “top level” people but I’ve really grown to appreciate the stories and insight provided by those that I would run along with in a race.
Check it out if you are interested and have some commuting airspace to fill. It’s a great podcast and will expose you to some fascinating new stories.

David Tandberg writes:

I have been a long time listener and reader. In fact, I was reading Inside Trail way back when you were doing race previews, runner interviews, and commentary, etc (hell, I even read your old blog – Footfeathers). I followed you to your present incarnation. I enjoy your humor and your unique take on the MUT scene.

Recently you have started loosing me with all the cricket (I mean come on!), cycle-cross, and super-cross. Having followed since the beginning I log-on hoping to hear things MUT related. But that represents my interests and it is your show so you obviously can do what you want. However, I’ve been loosing interest and listening less frequently.

To further explain my thinking, my primary motivation in listen to y’all, and to earlier read InsideTrail, has been to be exposed to a less sanitized take on the MUT scene. I love iRunFar and read, when I have time, individual athletes’ blogs, but I access those sites for different reasons (information and motivation). Your website/podcast is the only source for unvarnished, unsantized critique, analysis and humor within the MUT blogosphere. I would hate to loose that.

That said, since I’m not making any effort to provide that kind of content, I can’t complain and y’all should do what interests you.

Brian Desmarais writes:

Dear Gary and Tim,

The threat of more cricket talk moved me off my rear to write a review.

You have a fan here in Tulsa, even if I have been pretty slow to support the show. Thank you for putting on a consistently thoughtful and entertaining podcast. Elevation Trail is the gadfly of the ultrarunning community, asking tough questions about the direction of the “sport” and peering behind what you call “butterflies and sunshine” that many ultrarunners project onto the world. I’ve been running long distances on trails for several years now and experienced some of the disillusionment that Tim talks about. I’ve never really hit it off with the ultrarunning scene, turned off by the one upmanship on suffering and a sense that you’re not truly “in” unless you’re working toward a “hundo”. I’ve entered some “races,” but mostly run trails more as an excuse to get outside (away from people) and enjoy our local parks (yes, we have trails in Oklahoma).

I love the wide variety of topics and guests on your show. Highlights for me have been the environmental impact of ultrarunning and the impact of social media. You’re interviews are great; more conversational and insightful than other podcasts and media sites that ask them same questions over and over. And I love it when you talk about mountain biking, a sport that both terrifies and fascinates me. Maybe one of these days I’ll give it a go.
I also appreciate how you guys are not afraid to point out your own flaws or even contradict yourselves on occasion. While that may annoy some people, it tells me that you guys are honest and don’t have a hidden agenda.

So keep up the good work!


Brian Desmarais

Trail Erotica? Garage Sales, Ultrarunning in 2015 (and 2025)

Ultramag08Got 90 minutes to waste? Then you’re in for a treat with this show. We cover a wide range of topics and somehow tie them all together in a cohesive orb, sort of like a rubberband (or gumband for you Pittsburg folks) ball.

Here’s my motovlog helmet setup:

Audio-Tech ATR3350 mic

GoPro Hero 3 action cam

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Direct link to .mp3 file: Trail Erotica

Reviews of Elevation Trail – Get RAW

Don’t forget to write your review of Elevation Trail. We’ll read some of them this week on the show Thursday. You can either write the review on your blog (give us the link!) or email it to us at tim @ elevationtrail . com

We value your feedback – you can serve as a creative influence on the direction of ET! (or at least give us something fun to talk about).

Do you want the shows to be ALL about running? Do you like other topics? Which sports and activities should we cover? Are the shows too long? Does Tim say “um” too many times? Does Gary talk too much? Do you wish there were more production skills (i.e. inserted music for effect, clips of conversations inserted, etc)? Are the shows too frequent? Would you like two or more a week? Do you prefer when we interview guests or just have the two of use chatting away? What are some of your favorite things about the show? Things you don’t like?

Tell us! Make this a give and take community. We’re obviously not that worried about pleasing everyone but we would like to know how certain things work and don’t work for ET Mob.

Oh, and buy a fuckin’ hat. I have a box of them sitting here.

Voices In Our Heads – Holiday Show


This was going on at my food store this week.

Crossfit, Grocery Store, Boulder Marathon, Brandon, Show Reviews.

Those are the topics. As far as show reviews, we’d really like to read some analysis and review of the ET show. Just be nice about it.

Thanks for listening.

Mining by Moonlight

“Mining by Moonlight” Kevin MacLeod (
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0

Contest – Free ET Hats


Secure in Elevation Trail Headquarters. One of those hats could be yours!

Ok, we’re giving away one new Elevation Trail trucker hat AND the last remaining (new with tags) old school original version ET hat with the old logo. OMG OMG OMG! Here’s the deal: If the Elevation Trail Facebook page reaches at least 700 likes by 11:59pm on December 31, we will randomly select two of the “Likes” from our FB page and send you each a hat with an autographed photo of Gary and Tim (calm down, ladies).

So get over to our facebook page and get your friends and family to like the heck out of it, so we reach over 700 likes by New Years.

Interview With the Giant Killer – Dave Wiens

Wiens Leads Armstrong

Dave making Lance Armstrong hurt at the Leadville 100.

20 years ago. Dave with the number 2 plate and Farrah Faucet hair.

20 years ago. Dave with the number 2 plate and Farrah Fawcett hair.

Gunnison Colorado is his home. The trails are where he dominates and has done so for over 20 years. Dave Wiens, fresh off his 50th birthday in September reflects on a career and life in mountain biking and brings us up to speed on how it has evolved into a job (many jobs) that he still loves doing. Not many people in the world can say they beat Lance Armstrong head to head in a grueling race. Dave can. The list of accomplishments is too long for me to write here in the intro, so please listen to the show and soak up one of the greatest and most humble athletes to ever swing a leg over a mountain bike.

Direct .mp3 file:

Special bonus! Check out this 8 min video of a 1992 race in Crested Butte. You’ll never guess who won it.

And! Here’s the link to the Growler MTB race in Gunnison

News This Week and Show Teaser

The first batch of hats were sent out to listeners (and people I’m trying to coerce into listening). Send me photos of you in your new Elevation Trail hat and I’ll post them here and on our stagnate Facebook page.

The show this week? Well, let me just say that this athlete has been a sort of hero to me for a few years now. My palms are sweating writing this and I can’t think of a complete sentence to say for the show. He has transcended his sport from granular beginnings to still dominating today against the best athletes in the world. He’s been called “The Giant Killer”. The show is Thursday, so don’t miss it!

Now, I leave you with Elevation Trail family photos:

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